Talk:Takako Sugiura/@comment-25281705-20140922084730/@comment-397235-20140923004704

The thing that always casts Takako sympathetically in my eyes has been her unwillingness to kill Kouichi. She made a point of not killing him even when it would've made killing Mei easier. She's crazy, yeah, but she's not that crazy. Had anyone tried they probably could've saved her. She'd have been severely messed up for what she almost did to Mei, but I think most of us would prefer that to being dead.

I guess it depends on where your Moral Event Horizon is. Basically, that's the point of no return, where someone does something 100% unforgivable.

For me, that point is murder. So Tomohiko in the anime is beyond that, since he killed two people he didn't have to (and furthermore, didn't especially care). Nobody else crosses that threshold, so for me, no one else is past that point of no return (and even then, from a religious standpoint, my God is capable of forgiving anything including those who killed Him, so in His eyes there is no threshold in the first place).

A lot of people seem to see Takako's actions as just as horrible. She didn't kill anyone true but she did everything she could to make sure someone killed Mei. Of course, I can sort of justify that by saying she's after someone she has every reason to believe is the Extra. In that sense she's not much worse than Kouichi, she just made the mistake of picking the wrong person. And even then, like I pointed out earlier, she didn't kill anyone she didn't have to. I contrast that to Tomohiko, who was pretty sure who the Extra was but "just to be safe" wasn't hesitant about killing everyone else he came across. That level of psychosis is a bit worse than the other, as far as I'm concerned.