Thread:Godzillafan93/@comment-6052796-20141228020835/@comment-6052796-20141228064417

Blame the time periods for that one not the writers. Most of those guys who wrote the GA were either dead or spent decades apologizing for their earlier works for those very reasons. Stan Lee pretty much did them all in many comics and spent the rest of his retirement either apologizing or correcting many mistakes other Marvel staff made to his characters, mainly One More Day.

That Random Chick, Vicki Vale actually has more to her. The screams and stupidity aside, she is the only one in the movie to figure out Batman's secret idenity just by following Bruce around, taking pictures and cross referencing them with older headlines related to him. Alexander Knox, the reporter working with her, practically helped her out, but couldn't put two and two together. With that said, her being let in the Batcave doesn't really have to be explained that much after that. During the time Bruce was thinking of his parent's murder, she probably knocked on the door, Alfred answered, she said something along the lines of "I know Bruce is Batman." Course, Bruce being the only one out of the loop since he was still in flashback land when she walked in. Cesar and West are great actors, you oughta watch the 1960s Oceans 11 for the Former's example and Beware The Grey Ghost for the latter. However I never really liked the 60s Batman all that much, I was especially pissed that they didn't let Clint Eastwood on as Two-Face.

I veto the non speaking rule for one reason. Since Rises is part of Nolan's series, it pretty much helps me prove a certain point. Many fans have claimed that Nolan's Batman series, has a non-killing Batman whilst when one pays attention, he pretty much abuses loopholes that allow him to kill without direct involvement. That's pretty much the equivalent to a mob boss telling his underling to kill someone then justify himself saying "I wasn't the one who pulled the trigger."